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Building Questionaire Results
Chestnut Hill Meetinghouse Questionnaire
James Bradberry Architect
Out of 52 people polled (note not everyone
answered all questions):
1A. What qualities do you feel make a space
inspirational and spiritual?
| Simplistic beauty and elegance |
29 |
| Natural and comfortable lighting |
21 |
| Acoustics (quiet, able to hear others) |
14 |
| Spaciousness, openess |
13 |
| Views of nature |
9
|
| Coziness, comfort, intimacy |
9
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| Natural materials |
9 |
| Color |
5 |
| Accessibility |
2 |
| Symmetry |
|
| Order |
|
| Hearth/fireplace |
|
| Coolness |
|
| Safe |
|
| Love |
2 |
Additional Comments:
The general consensus expressed a need for simplicity
but not coldness; minimal colors, patterns, and adornment;
Japanese Temple inspiration (inward inspiring and
provoking as opposed to awe inspiring and imposing)
mentioned; "warmth, in the sense that the space
could be a space of consolation, but coolness, in
a way that goes along with the hush and sense of
being small" --Amey Hutchins
2A. Are there other Meetinghouses that particularly
appeal to you? Why?
| CHMM |
6 |
| Older and historic meetings in surrounding
area |
5 |
| Gwynedd - light |
4 |
| 5th and Arch St/15th and Cherry/Race
St./Green St. - historic meeting houses
of Philadelphia etc |
3 |
| Seattle Friends - circular seaing, greenery,
natural wood, easy/quiet entry |
2 |
| Worship Room at Friends of Washington
DC - natural light, high ceiling |
2 |
Additional Comments:
Westbury Meeting House (Long Island); Purchase MM
(NY); Willistown; Horsham Friends Meeting; Barn at
Pendle Hill; Newtown Friends; Milwaukee; Bethesda;
Abington Friends; Chapel Hill (NC); Ithaca College
Chapel; Media Friends Meeting; Live Oaks Meeting
(Houston); Frankford MM; George School; Swarthmore
Meeting; Byberry Meeting; Cambridge Meeting,
3A. Are there Meetinghouses that do not appeal to
you? Why?
| Germantown - too large, bad acoustics,
barn |
17 |
| 4th and Arch - flourescent lights, too
large, two tier system |
8 |
| Plymouth Meeting MM - cramped |
3 |
| Gwynned MM - too dark, large meeting
rooms |
2 |
| Green St. - ceiling too high, bad acoustics,
too linear |
2 |
| CHMM - low ceilings, tight quarters |
2 |
| Doylestown MM - cramped |
|
Middletown Meeting (Bucks County) - direct
entry to meeting from parking is impersonal
and not special
|
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Frankford MM - same reason as above
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| Wilmington Friends Meeting - celings
too high to hear |
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4A. Are there other religious/spiritual sites that
particularly appeal to you? Why?
| Japanese temples, tea houses, and other
Asian
temples |
4 |
| Old monasteries, cathedrals and churches |
3 |
St. Pauls Chestnut Hill (Episcopal Church)
- warm woodwork, trusses
|
2 |
Additional Comments:
New England Churches; St. Deep Run Presb; Taj Mahal;
Chapel of St. Ignatius (Seattle Univ); Old Swedes
Church; Chapel at Cape May (NJ); Sistine Chapel;
Chapel in Chimago (New Mexico); Unitarian Center
of Princeton; Meditation Room at Omega (NY); Church
of the Savior (Wayne); Saarinen Chapel (MIT); Ronchamp;
Sainte-Chappelle (Paris); Phil. Ethical Culture
Center; Libraries; Zendo (Green Gulch @ Muir Beach,
CA)
5A. If you could use three adjectives to describe
CHMM, what would they be?
In response to CHMM people/meetings:
| Friendly, welcoming, open |
11 |
| Warm |
11 |
| Loving, caring |
8 |
| Active, lively |
9 |
| Community |
4 |
| Spiritual, faithful |
4 |
| Conflicted, drifting in opinion |
3 |
| Committed |
4 |
| Growing |
3 |
Additional Comments:
Beautiful, Informal, Peaceful, Seeking, Joyful, Passionate,
Healthy, Strong, Earnest, Tolerant, Profound, Funky,
Intellectual, Timeless, Moderate, Intense, Busy,
Concerned, Involved, Busy, Noisy, Cosmopolitan, Secular,
Dynamic, Humorous, Simple, Intimate, Respectful
In response to CHMM meeting house:
| Intimate, cozy |
8 |
| Simple, unadorned |
8 |
| Cramped, limited, stuffy |
4 |
| Natural, green |
3 |
| Inadequate storage |
2 |
Additional Comments:
Calm, Quiet, Old, Ungainly, Yellow, Functional,
Gloomy, Dirty, Small, Warm, Uncluttered, Classic,
Well proportioned
6A/7A. What problems can you identify with the
current Meetinghouse that need to be addressed
in the new Meetinghouse? Are there any activities
that need new or differenty types of spaces in
the new Meetinghouse?
1) Main consensus is that meeting rooms are too
small especially to house community activities.
Need for expandable/flexible space during busy
times. Many mentioned for the First Day School
(FDS) and separate rooms for them. More spaces
for children such as personal alcoves or day care
space. Introduction of multipurpose room with seating
for 150 with stage, microphones, screens. Accomodations
for that groups staying overnight. Also addition
of area for posted announcements and art displays.
2) Most think entrance and access is inadequate.
Access from the street is difficult. Lack of accessibility
especially ADA. Entrance too small and often blocked.
Need for more entries perhaps.
3) Need for better organization of spaces. Currently
greeted by the kitchen, newcomers are often unsure
where to go. Bad circulation, benches are too close.
4) Storage seems to be a major problem. Need for
better storage throughout especially for tables,
chairs, and other equipment for daily and seasonal.
Storage for FDS equipment needed. Often renters
need storage. More closets needed.
5) Bathroom facilities are inadequate and outmoded.
Many request separate showers. Too small and too
few and not ADA. Water fountains needed, indoor
and outdoor. Need to accommodate for children and
infants.
6) Kitchen outmoded. Inadequate storage. Stove
burners do not work properly. Too small and needs
better organization, current workflow poor. Increase
counterspace, however keep the main multiuse steel
table in the middle.
7) Many mention bad acoustics, lacks soundproofing
8) Need for better playground equipment and outside
gathering space. Need for bycicle parking.
9) Poor ventilation
10) Needs washer and dryer space
11) Need to update elecrical power, plugs and ports
12) Introduction of library. Comfortable chairs
and tables for meetings or just to read. Some mention
need for non institutional space, one that is homier.
13) Add possible computer room
14) Inadequate energy use. Make green.
15) Mention of Gwynned Friends' addition and using
it as an example.
16) A small amount of people think that the exg
space is sufficient and that improvements should
be made to energy, maintenance, materials, and
refurbishment of exg building. Mention that current
proportions are good but need wider aisles. One
person did not support motel type space to support
NWIFHN and Quaker overnight gatherings. Keep adaptations
modest.
17) Visitor name tags and books, info kiosk
1B. If you could use three adjectives to describe
the exg Meeting Room, what would they be?
See 1A and 5A. Most answers the same.
2B. What aspects of the exg Meeting Room should
be considered in new one?
See 1A and 6A/7A. Most answers the same.
Most feel need for more space and flexibility,
seating, better circulation, wider aisles, ADA,
better acoustics and soundsystem, and less disruptive
way of entry for latecomers and people leaving,
keep fireplace.
Climate control and ventilation, operable windows
Wood floors
Better color selection
Higher ceilings
Natural lighting
Views outside
Square or round layout as opposed to long axis
(one person)
3B. Do you have an opinion on whether to keep the
exg benches?
| Keep old benches |
21 |
| No opinion |
7 |
| New benches |
16 |
Additional Comments:
Most mentioned need for comfort esp for those with
back problems. Request for wider benches with stable
cushions. Many feel that old ones kept may be reused
elsewhere, not necessarily for meeting room. Concern
that current benches are not adequate in number.
Mention of selling old benches or giving away.
Some feel new building, new benches so that they
match. Others feel it is a good way of commemorating
and connecting to the past. Still others feel that
mixing old and new is best. Others want continuity.
Seem pretty evenly split. Mention of rocking chairs
and alternate seating.
4B. Do you have an opinion on seating arrangements
for the Meeting Room?
| Rows of benches facing same direction |
0 |
Half facing other half
|
24 |
| Tiered benches |
3 |
| Inwardly focused 3-sided |
28 |
| Inwardly focused 4-sided |
29 |
| Perimeter benches |
7 |
| Unsure |
4 |
Additional Comments:
Seem conflicted on tier or no tier system, access
issues, but better view, circular mentioned facing
inwards and perimeter benches
5B. Do you feel it is important to design the Meeting
Room to fit a particular seating arrangement or
should the proportions of the room be able to accommodate
multiple arrangements?
| Meeting room should accommodate numerous
arrangements |
25 |
| Meeting room designed to fit seating
arrangement |
10 |
| Unsure |
1 |
6B. Is it important to have a fireplace in the
new Meeting Room? What about an environmentally
friendly fireplace/stove?
| Important |
36 |
| Not important |
7 |
| No opinion |
4 |
Additional Comments:
Most want environmentally friendly fireplace. Not
stove. Something simple and not too overbearing.
Some want fireplace but not necessary to be in
meeting room.
7B. Do you envision the membership of the Meeting
growing? If so, what seems to be an appropriate
size?
Optimum size:
| 176-200 |
6 |
| 151-175 |
1 |
| 126-150 |
3 |
| 100-125 |
6 |
| 200% |
1 |
| 150% |
1 |
| 25-50% increase |
7 |
| less than 25% |
1 |
| Keep current size |
2 |
Additional Comments:
Almost everyone agrees that the meeting will
grow but are unsure as to how much. Many did
not answer the second portion of the question,
citing only that membership will grow and the
need for flexibility. Some mention splitting
to two meetings instead of changing size.
8B. How many people should the Meeting Room accommodate?
Do you have an opinion on the potential loss of
intimacy if it gets larger? Do you have an opinion
on an expandable Meeting Room?
Strong favor for expandable Meeting Room that may
be moved without too much disruption for larger
crowds
Significant concern for loss of intimacy
Most feel 150 +/- 25 is appropriate
9B. How important is literal silence and total
lack of distraction to you? Do you have an opinion
on the Gather Room doors and windows?
| Silence important |
14 |
| Not important |
12 |
| Doors shut |
3 |
| Doors open |
3 |
Additional Comments:
Face Meeting Room toward park to minimize main
sounds from street. Concern over routine noise
from meeting house (toilets flushing, phones, chatter,
air conditioning). Main consensus expressed that
noise is natural part of world and should be kept,
unrealistic to eliminate all sounds, just minimize
it. No significant concern for moving windows higher
up.
10B. Larger windows and more light
Additional Comments:
Concern over too much light and glare, heat issues
and views outside. Most expressed that larger windows
viewing nature would be beautiful, ideal, and welcoming.
1C. Do you have an opinion where the new Turrell
installation should be located?
| No preference |
14 |
| Meeting Room |
8 |
| Entryway |
4 |
| 1st Day School Area |
1 |
| Centered |
1 |
| Exterior |
1 |
| Not familiar |
7 |
Additional Comments:
Preference for installation using natural rather
than artificial light. Not be too overwhelming
or distracting. Should only be in Meeting Room
if it "makes
an impact." Some don't want any artwork in
the meetingroom. One person against roof opening.
Mention of having it high up "heavenward." Many
express more info is needed to make an informed
decision.
2C. How would you feel about extending it outdoors
onto the site and landscape?
| Yes |
34 |
| Unsure.no opinion |
6 |
| No |
1 |
3C. How would you feel about opening the installation
to the public at certain times?
Additional Comments:
Concern for security and hours as well as hiring
a caretaker if it is in the meeting room.
1D. If you could use three adjectives to describe
the landscape of the future Meetinghouse, what
would they be?
| Natural |
18 |
| Peaceful |
9 |
| Low maintenance |
10 |
| Green |
8 |
| Private |
2 |
| Inviting |
6 |
| Beautiful |
5 |
| Simple |
3 |
| Shading |
2 |
| Accessible |
2 |
| Modern |
|
| Harmonious |
|
| Intimate |
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| Child friendly |
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2D. Do you want outdoor spaces for weddings and
other events? Should there be an area for a tent?
What other functions should be accommodated?
| Play area |
19 |
| Exterior sitting area/classroom space |
13 |
| Picnic/barbeque area |
10 |
| Wedding/memorial |
8 |
| Meditation |
5 |
| Tent area |
6 |
| Labyrinth |
3 |
| Outside terrace/porch |
|
| Parking for bikes |
|
| Ampitheater |
|
| Recycling |
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Additional Comments:
Unanimous need for outdoor activity spaces. Mention
of planned roof areas or movable awnings as opposed
to tents. Natural outdoor lounge. Most simply replied
yes. Mention of SEPTA stops and benches. Keep blacktop
parking small?
3D. There are also symbolic uses of the landcape:
a setting for the building, a sense of arrival
and entrance, transition from busy world to sanctuary.
Should there be a quiet area on the site for that
symbolism?
Additional Comments:
Mention of labyrinth. Covered porch. Mention of
student model made. Entrance that is somewhat removed
from the meeting room itself. Possibility of making
it open to public during the week.
4D. What other uses would you like to see on the
site itself?
| Green roof |
11 |
| Pond/waterfall |
7 |
| Meditation space |
2 |
| Recycling |
2 |
| Small cabin |
2 |
| No |
3 |
Additional Comments:
Must be cost effective and low maintenance. The
more green the better. Safety hazard of pond and
fencing it off.
5D. Do you have an opinion about where the new
Meetinghouse should be located on the site?
| Near hillside |
12 |
| Away from Mermaid Lane |
5 |
| Toward Mermaid Lane |
2 |
| Away from Germantown |
2 |
| entered |
1 |
Additional Comments:
Consider traffic flow. Should be sited to look
welcoming and open. Should be well lit. Connection
to natural landscape, God, etc. Accessible.
More info needed.
6D. Would you consider extensions of the natural
landscape into the Meeting landscape using plants
native to Chestnut Hill?
Other Notes:
Must be cost effective. Use of native plants
1E. How do you categorize your own opinion along
the spectrum of environmental standards?
| a. The new building should be designed
to current building and energy codes. |
0 |
| b. The building should incorporate special energy saving
and environmental solutions the cost of which could
be recovered in a reasonable period of time. |
16 |
| c. As a witness to our testimony regarding
the environment, the building design should
strive for a high level of energy efficiency
and environmental sustainablility, while
still being fiscally responsible |
31 |
1F. Are there particular building materials that
you feel are important to consider for the Meetinghouse?
| Stone |
11 |
| Wood |
7 |
| Brick |
3 |
| Stucco |
4 |
Additional Comments:
Mentioned use of stainless steel, recycled materials,
cement clapboard, plaster. Mention of no plasterboard,
Wissahickon schist?, shingles, no dryvit, no wood
framing FLW mentioned. Easy maintenance a must.
Built to last. Mention of well.
2F. What type of visual impact do you think a new
meetinghouse should present?
| Inviting, open |
24 |
| Simple |
6 |
| Discrete |
5 |
| Welcoming |
4 |
| Spare |
|
| Modern |
|
| Alluring |
|
| Natural |
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3F. If the project were phased, what activities
should be in the first phase? Do you forsee difficulties
in operating on two sites?
| Do not phase |
11 |
| Phase meeting room first |
6 |
| Do not separate FDS and meeting |
4 |
| Phase FDS first |
2 |
| FDS in old, meeting house in new |
2 |
| FDS in new, meeting house in old |
1 |
| Phase Turrell installation first |
1 |
Additional Comments:
Use current building for meetings, renting, space
for young adult activites. Inclements of weather
and working on two sites. Parents away from children.
Difficult for handicapped.
4F. Should the aesthetic character of the building
be similar to the present Meetinghouse? How would
you feel about a more modern one?
| New aesthetic |
21 |
| Keepexg. aesthetic |
8 |
5F. To what extent should the plan and organization
of the meetinghouse be designed to accommodate
potential uses by other organizations that have
special needs?
| Support |
21 |
| Do not support |
10 |
Additional Comments:
Consideration for day care, Mt. Airy Learning
Tree, AA. Small music groups may use it (chamber
music). Accommodate without jeopardizing worship.
Main argument for those against is that the
activities may change in the future.
1G. Additional comments
Input about future/potential uses of exg building
not addressed
Fiscal responsibility issue has not been addressed
Mention of landscape given primary attention
Creation of frog refuge?
Provide space for performance by fundraisers,
community use, and member private use.
Anticipate livein caretaker/office secretary
Artshows
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